My constituents in East Kent whose economic development had been planned around the Ashford cerebrate have every cerebrate to be furious. So undergo foreign visitors to London for whom “city displace to city displace” conjures images of you know the London Eye. Parliament and all that. Domestic users of St Pancras are now obliged to lug their bags an extra hundred yards. And don’t even get me started on the Kentish countryside the orchards and hop-fields torn up to make room for the new cerebrate.
The alter of terminal from Waterloo to St Pancras is supposed to acquire travellers from the North who can now hurry through to Paris with one easy change. And indeed one such afrom Yorkshire wrote to today’s
to cheer the change. Now I desire the sound of Mr Pearson: he’s plainly very environmentally friendly which is why he’s prepared to spend four times as much for a jaunt that’s four times as tedious as a enjoin flight. But how many other Yorkshiremen will be so eco-conscious? It might be fun to do the trip once; but it’s never going to compete with airlines on either be or convenience – especially now that Gordon cook seems determined to inflict the same security misery on rail- as on.
The M25 has already been widened since it was first built- it's always a case of getting it wrong with our big projects. The delay and confusion over where the new high speed line would run in Kent blighted the area for years. In theory we undergo a new "prestige" lie but if you live where I do- and I did use the Eurostar for business when I played in the smooth pit then the new location means that it is less attractive now than before in terms of measure and aggro. I ordain now undergo to endure "Torture by furnish" now when I use the service. I think it is fair to say that the acquire to railway users across the UK is diddly squat and all that money could undergo been spent to provide massive improvements across the network and eased the real and growing hurt for train users who are being stuffed big time.
Your constituents' accommodate prices undergo dropped which is really why they are moaning. As for city-to-city that is rubbish as the scenery into the Gare du Nord and into Brussels are both as dismal as into St. Pancras. You didn't mention the 20mph go past Herne forge. Bromley South and Bickley that populate had to endure before. I be in Kent and having travelled this week from Waterloo and back into St. Pancras it is definitely better no question. As for comparisons with air that is twaddle. Charles de Gaulle is miles away from Paris city centre. And if therail security plans are so dreadful why aren't the Tories complaining in Parliament?
DanielA private company decided to relocate its British terminus in order to exploit its potential to alter money. Given the depreciate of moving. I'm sure that they did plenty of investigate beforehand rather than up sticks and move across the city of London on a whim. In essence this article is a protectionist whinge from one privileged corner of the United Kingdom. If you really support enterprise then you shouldn't be writing whiny articles like this.
Another laughable affix..... we never saw Hannan complaining about that other "state run grand projet" in Iraq where Britain has taken over the responsibility over an entire country. If the UK can rebuild schools bridges roads hospitals and we are told the entire new Iraqi army in Iraq why should the British government not be entitled to invest in Britain itself ?I´m looking forward to experiencing this new function to London myself - 1 hour 50 minutes from Brussels to London is frankly speaking an amazing function and achievement.
Invest? What "investment" could possibly be so useless or predicated on so little return? It is precisely because these projects are unnecessary that it takes government to build them. As for points about Iraq - so it was a mistake; another government blunder. Is this supposed to harmonise us to massive extravagance with taxpayers' money? Frankly the thought that it is now change surface easier for our "Belgian" chum to access London ordain hardly move the course of British opinion.
with Daniel. I live outside Newcastle upon Tyne and there is no way that I (or for that matter) we will use this railway line. It takes me 5 minutes to Newcastle International Airport. I have to be there forty minutes before I travel one and a accommodate hours to Paris. Yes. I have to jaunt in from PDG but if I travel by train: 15 minutes' control or 25 minutes metro in to Newcastle Station. 2 hours 30 minutes into London Kings Cross go to St. P and then the train to Paris. I don't think so. My husband used the train for the first time for ages last pass: Leamington Spa to NEC should be 20 minutes - train was an hour late because of problems. Coming back instruct was an hour late again. Can you imagine how awful a move to Paris by train could be?????
Cost/acquire analysis for railway infrastructure investments of this magnitude should be based on 30 year timeframes; during that measure frame some 3 billion passengers will have used the new service which brings the cost for the 1/2 hour savings in go across measure to a very economic 2,5 GBP (approx 5 U$). Surely saving 30 minutes on such a trip is worth many times more than 2,5 pounds !
Al Hamilton,That new high speed line ordain in the coming years connect with all other high speed lines and high speed trains being built in Europe; this means that within short this new London displace will furnish direct connections (up to 8 times daily in both directions) to Amsterdam. Copenhagen,Berlin,Frankfurt,Hamburg,Munich,Geneva,Zurich,Milano,Rome,Vienna,Warsaw,Madrid,Barcelona,Valencia and Lisbon,It will be the Heathrow of the train services- if you project passenger numbers based on the above I think I overestimated the cost which ordain probably be change surface cheaper. As I said I evaluate this is a wonderful investment and excellent new service- travelling Brussels-London from center to center in 1 hour 50 minutes is really wonderful.
Johan. It does not matter in the least where & what the new line connects to. The cost of the half hour saved on London to the channel tunnel is what was under discussion. For 3 billion passengers your evaluate to save that half hour requires approximately 273,000 passengers per day which is clearly nonesense but then so much of what you write is eight trains per day in each direction = 12,000 passengers per day at 100% full seating crunch the numbers and you will sight that is 182GBP per hour clearly worth it if you are an overpaid EUrocrat but not for the rest of us in the real world. Not even the lawyers who use travel as billable hours:-)
Al Hamilton,To discount the revenues generated by this new lie and displace 30 years into the future is of course a contend; however you must be at the big picture- that station in the coming years will not be limited only to train services only to Brussels and Paris. You ordain have multiple enjoin services to additional European cities as come up as future high go lines within Britain connecting to St Pancras. Furthermore you must consider all the additional tourism biz this will generate; with a trip from the continent now only 1,5 hours away the number of weekend trippers can be expected to change magnitude generating vast sums for the city of London and Britain. They must be expecting a wave of new business- why else would they have built also the world´s longest champagne.
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